I've been meaning to get back into drawing more shortstacks but obviously there's the problem of people pointing fingers of it being too close ot a "child"
So I made a row of varying styles of shortstacks or just short cuties, and would like y'all's opinion on it.
Which one looks too close to a child and which one would you prefer more of.
Anyway, back to work with me, prepare for Bat Tiddy and Lizard Tiddy :D
So I made a row of varying styles of shortstacks or just short cuties, and would like y'all's opinion on it.
Which one looks too close to a child and which one would you prefer more of.
Anyway, back to work with me, prepare for Bat Tiddy and Lizard Tiddy :D
Category Artwork (Digital) / All
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3 and 6 are where its at
Wouldn't say any of them are child like in this chart.
Wouldn't say any of them are child like in this chart.
I think context is more of the issue? While none of them look like children to me, that's probably moreso because I know the context of this.
In my opinion, they all look adult.
Also, 3 and 5 are peak shortstack, but 1 is good, too.
In my opinion, they all look adult.
Also, 3 and 5 are peak shortstack, but 1 is good, too.
looked at 2 pages of ur gallery and ive not seen anything "childlike"
all your females seem to have their secondary sexual characteristics that show sexual maturity.
all your females seem to have their secondary sexual characteristics that show sexual maturity.
4 is maybe the 'most' childlike, but I don't really twig any of them as children.
gimme 3 and 4 all day erryday.
gimme 3 and 4 all day erryday.
5 is fave for obvious reasons, I think 4 is the one that's more eh...though I think the face and expression play a decent part in how it all looks too.
I dunno. None of these look even remotely childlike. As for my personal taste, I like all of them but 5. Just not really into the whole "thicc" fad.
Aw yes, number 5, or as I like the call it, "The Plaga"
Parts swap for what I think qualifys
Number 2. Hips and legs
Number 4. Torso
Number 6. or 3. Breasts
Number 2. Hips and legs
Number 4. Torso
Number 6. or 3. Breasts
None of the sketches look "too childlike". I think this will be more a problem with the final character designs; people presume anyone who's too cute is a child
I wanna see 5 with 6's chest.
Also, what are your thoughts on short stack femboys?
Also, what are your thoughts on short stack femboys?
Ik this question isn't for me. But Personally I'd say they're one of the Peak Femboys to exist in life. Seriously just looking at them makes me want to create myself as one in multiple different versions!
hmm, this is pretty useful. Any issues if i use this to help draw a shortstack of my own?
Gonna say 3 is probably my favorite, but 2 is pretty close. 4's pretty cute too, but it's a bit more "short" than "stack."
2 and 4 look like the pefect ones. well formed and not to much "deformed".
1 would also still be ok but looks a bit "over sexualised"
looking at 3 seems like this one would have a lot backpain
5 seems like way to....well, deformed
6 seems also kinda ok, even if still a bit sexualised and kinda "small".
So i would say, go with 2 and /or 4. 1 would be still ok, 3 kinda to odd, 5 way to deformed, 6 might be to small and could count as child - not for me but maybe someone could think that way.
1 would also still be ok but looks a bit "over sexualised"
looking at 3 seems like this one would have a lot backpain
5 seems like way to....well, deformed
6 seems also kinda ok, even if still a bit sexualised and kinda "small".
So i would say, go with 2 and /or 4. 1 would be still ok, 3 kinda to odd, 5 way to deformed, 6 might be to small and could count as child - not for me but maybe someone could think that way.
I'm all about dem curves, so 3 and 5 are GREAT, but as long as there's too much T&A to be a teen/kid, you're good.
4 might look a little too "teen" for some.
4 might look a little too "teen" for some.
I dig them all except #5, really, but #2 and #6 gotta be my favorites.
But if you're worried about the twitter crowd I would watch out for #4.
But if you're worried about the twitter crowd I would watch out for #4.
None of those are especially "childlike", so. I think you're home free.
I'd say I'm a sucker for 1, 5, and 6.
The only one which really looks child-like would have to be 4, since there's not as much meat on those bones! Or chest, for that matter.
The only one which really looks child-like would have to be 4, since there's not as much meat on those bones! Or chest, for that matter.
The trick with shortstacks is to remember that most of the height is lost from the legs and the torso is comparatively long.
I think I like number 1 the most and 5 and 6 the least, they look a bit too cartoony. I get thick thighs etc but there is a limit, thigh being twice as wide as a boob is scraping the parody territory with that tiny body. I would much prefer 1 and 4 with bigger boobs.
Also it's hard to say cause You never exactly draw characters in a default standing pose, so it all evens out and looks generally similiar, I didn't even know You've been using different proportions between posts. :3
Also it's hard to say cause You never exactly draw characters in a default standing pose, so it all evens out and looks generally similiar, I didn't even know You've been using different proportions between posts. :3
None of these look like children 'cause being a child isn't about being short.
1, 2, 4 and 6 are most pleasing to me
1, 2, 4 and 6 are most pleasing to me
2 and 4 look the most childlike; they could easily be a little under the legal age. 5 and 6 look like they could be children with super-advanced growth (so basically, something like an adult Pichu or Pikachu, compared to the others)
none of them aren really childlike, you still have adult porportions on the character. But i do prefer 5 and a design like 5 would probably be hard to confuse for a kid
Well, they may be short, yet their boobs/thighs sizes make them all already far enough from any kind of child-like looks) Some people just try to find the most stupid reasons to cancel others, making them look real when they are actually not. But I'd once again agree with the opinion that none of them look even remotely like children)
I'm not sure any of the frames in specific convey a child/minor. However I REALLY like numbers 4 and 2 alot! So they get my votes! ❤️
I like 1, 2, 3, and 5
6 is too short/looks weird for some reason
6 is too short/looks weird for some reason
Children have less pronounced definition than adults.
It's the baby fat.
Now, if you made a shortstack-size femboy, you might get some weird looks.
It's the baby fat.
Now, if you made a shortstack-size femboy, you might get some weird looks.
Pffft, just draw them with huge tiddies, that way only idiots will complain about it being a kid. :V
But anyways, 5 is what peak shortstack looks like. It's alllll in those huge, thick thighs and big gazongas, baby.
But anyways, 5 is what peak shortstack looks like. It's alllll in those huge, thick thighs and big gazongas, baby.
I wouldn't say any of them look childlike in the slightest. I think when it comes to discerning a child character from a shortstack character is giving the shortstack some obvious maturity to their body shape. Like wide hips, or obvious breasts (not necessarily large, mind you).
Either way this chart looks great! :3
Either way this chart looks great! :3
6 is cutest in a non-lewd way
I think 1 is probably best for lewd
3 looks weird
I think 1 is probably best for lewd
3 looks weird
"Too close to a child"
...So kids have big boobs and wide hips then? First I'm hearing of it.
...So kids have big boobs and wide hips then? First I'm hearing of it.
think number 3 might look like it from the waist down compared to the normal shape. but with that boobs is impossible be a young person. I Like 1, 4 and 6
5-6 looks borderline, but the thing that really matters if you don't want to look creepy drawing shortstacks is how you do the faces. If you make their faces look young, then that's what gives off the creepy vibes. I don't think that will be an issue as you consistently draw adult looking faces which is a really good thing and not many artists can pull off.
Also, shortstacks don't have to be short. They just need to look short relative to their body proportions.
Also, shortstacks don't have to be short. They just need to look short relative to their body proportions.
I think I'm gonna add to the chorus of 'These really aren't childish at all wtf you sayin' bro'.
Also, I'm of the opinion that ALL of these shorties are awesome for a design standpoint. Just depends on how much short to curve ratio you want.
For me, personally I like 5 the most. 6 is a bit too close to the 'superdeformed' aspect. Main reason I go 5 is because quite simply the phrase is 'shortstack' so ya gotta have the extreme figure of some kind in it...going too small risks it not being curvy enough to be 'stacked' and while stumpy limbs does aim it towards shortness, you can have non-stumpy limbs too.
if I was going for a non-stacked idea I'd choose 1 hands down 'cuz it fits the 'just right' aspect of being both short AND curvier than average(but not enough to hit the 'stacked' range, obviously).
Also, I'm of the opinion that ALL of these shorties are awesome for a design standpoint. Just depends on how much short to curve ratio you want.
For me, personally I like 5 the most. 6 is a bit too close to the 'superdeformed' aspect. Main reason I go 5 is because quite simply the phrase is 'shortstack' so ya gotta have the extreme figure of some kind in it...going too small risks it not being curvy enough to be 'stacked' and while stumpy limbs does aim it towards shortness, you can have non-stumpy limbs too.
if I was going for a non-stacked idea I'd choose 1 hands down 'cuz it fits the 'just right' aspect of being both short AND curvier than average(but not enough to hit the 'stacked' range, obviously).
The one you did with that egyptian looking Riolu was perfect already
Because the short stacks that are usually made have faces that are child like then mature looking
In your case like many said, it is not about body type but context and gestures. For example in your Riolu pic, many people just associate riolus, and first stages Pokemon, with baby Pokemon (there's even a tag on e6 for that), people saying that the Riolu looks too young in that case is almost impossible to prevent unless the context and gestures explicitly (on most cases) points that the Riolu is of proper age.
I'm guessing a good practice for this would be making your existent characters into shortstacks first instead of making a new character, even if you don't like it. Since you already have their gestures and personalities internalized, it might help you to get that balance.
Any character can be made child like regardless of size but is easier the smaller it is, thanks to the cultural association of 'smaller people is also younger'.
In my case it falls mostly on the face, not even on the expressions, just the overall form (especially the eyes you make, i love them). Hence my previous idea, keep the face the same but downscale the body. Your sneasel could pass as a good shortstack with some extra junk in the trunk :p
Edit: don't forget that there's going to be people who always point fingers at every thing even if they have to invent the problem to do so
I'm guessing a good practice for this would be making your existent characters into shortstacks first instead of making a new character, even if you don't like it. Since you already have their gestures and personalities internalized, it might help you to get that balance.
Any character can be made child like regardless of size but is easier the smaller it is, thanks to the cultural association of 'smaller people is also younger'.
In my case it falls mostly on the face, not even on the expressions, just the overall form (especially the eyes you make, i love them). Hence my previous idea, keep the face the same but downscale the body. Your sneasel could pass as a good shortstack with some extra junk in the trunk :p
Edit: don't forget that there's going to be people who always point fingers at every thing even if they have to invent the problem to do so
The only one that looks sorta childlike would be no. 4.
5 is one I'm interested in seeing.
5 is one I'm interested in seeing.
4 is the only one I would consider even remotely childlike, and even that's a stretch. 5 and 6 are more of what I think of for a shortstack. 1, 2, and 3 don't quiet hit the "stacked" mark to me, but I love them all.
Frankly none of them look childlike. As for the other question, well, I'd like seeing all of those styles.
Keep the hips wider than the shoulders and the boobs at least 50% of the head and you'll never draw a child.
Totally a sucker for 5
Totally a sucker for 5
Honestly I like the 1st one the most, and if you put a gun to my head and made me choose a 'kiddy' one it would be 4 but even then I'd say less 'kid' and more like 'anime teen' aka 'we're saying it's a teen, they're in high school, but other than height they have the proportions of a model with extra botox'
I'd personally like to see more of 1, 2 and Norm. None of them look like a child though, it's just that the ones after 2 are just too short for me to enjoy in general
They all look reasonably aged. The only one that gets remotely close is 4. Even then, my freaking mom is that tall, so it's still pretty reasonable. Knowing your art style, you're pretty fine in that regard.
If it were me working on modeling my characters, I would try out 1, 3, 4 and 5
it's hard to pinpoint at what point a shortstack becomes a thot, you'd have to make some google searches in incognito mode for sure.
also
bat tiddy, or Baat tiddy?
also
bat tiddy, or Baat tiddy?
Definitely need to see some more 5.
I wouldn't say any of these looked too close to a child, maaaaaybe 2 or 4 but that's a bit of a stretch.
I wouldn't say any of these looked too close to a child, maaaaaybe 2 or 4 but that's a bit of a stretch.
Personally prefer some combination of 5/6. I like the chub of 5, but the breasts basically hide that.
4 seems the most childlike, If I had to choose. it looks like a young teen, rather than a stylistic or petite girl.
In general, a lot has to do with the way it's all drawn. a mature body and an underdeveloped one have anatomical differences regardless of overall stature. Weight distribution is one such example
4 seems the most childlike, If I had to choose. it looks like a young teen, rather than a stylistic or petite girl.
In general, a lot has to do with the way it's all drawn. a mature body and an underdeveloped one have anatomical differences regardless of overall stature. Weight distribution is one such example
I like tiddys as much as the next guy, but 4 looks honestly, really cute
I'm not much into shortstacks, but that's just my personal preference; I wouldn't really take much to any of them beyond like 1.
However, I don't think any of them look like a "child" with those tits, except like, maybe 2 & 4, moreso 4.
Even though 5 and 6 are shorter, they still look like they couldn't possibly be children. Rather they look like well-endowed midgets.
However, I don't think any of them look like a "child" with those tits, except like, maybe 2 & 4, moreso 4.
Even though 5 and 6 are shorter, they still look like they couldn't possibly be children. Rather they look like well-endowed midgets.
6 is my fav all the way; I love short stacks with dummy thicc legs =3 =3 =3
5 and 6 are my favorite but no one or these look child like. And even if they would look child like...my best friend is 23 and looks like 16. Looks can be deceiving.
1, 4 and 6 and especially 6 are the best choices here I think :3
I'd say all of them look like adults. You always draw them nicely developed.
Very young "loli" characters tend to have narrow hips, so as long as their hips + thighs are at #3 or larger, I don't think even the most paranoid person could conceive of them as a child.
As for communicating the shortstack figure, #5 and #6 have the proportions that are the most short and stacked.
Very young "loli" characters tend to have narrow hips, so as long as their hips + thighs are at #3 or larger, I don't think even the most paranoid person could conceive of them as a child.
As for communicating the shortstack figure, #5 and #6 have the proportions that are the most short and stacked.
I don’t think any of them look that much like children, but out of them I guess 4 or maybe 6 is the closest.
Also, I like 1, 2, and 5
Also, I like 1, 2, and 5
Personally, 4 seems closest to 'child-like' but all of them I would say are definitely adults
The hips on 2 are amazing! I think that the skeleton matters a lot in showing the age of a character. If they're 2 feet tall but have wide hips and a good ratio of head size to body they'll still appear mature. Keep up the great work!
5 and 6 are best, followed by 1. 4 is the only one that looks even vaguely kid-like. I'd say 3 is the worst looking one.
1, 3, and 5 absolute faves. As for childlike? Sadly, these days, nearly anything seems to flip people, and it's nigh-impossible to prevent.
I would say number 4 is the most child-like since all of the proportions are semi normal. Combined with the short height and number 4 looks the most like a chibi small person which is what children can end up looking like somewhat often. Granted I’ve never exactly studied the anatomy of children so I could be talking out of my butt XD
numbers 1 and 6 are my favourites in the line ^^
numbers 1 and 6 are my favourites in the line ^^
Somewhere between 3 and 5, with 5 looking the best. The hips and breasts should be almost of equal size and width.
None of the above. I never understood the child argument - there is a very fine line between what is obviously a prepubescent kid and a short/squat and incredibly busty woman.
On a side note, totally favving this. You're great with figures and this is good study ref. <.<
On a side note, totally favving this. You're great with figures and this is good study ref. <.<
I'm in love with 1, 4, 6. They are both adorable and thicc. Tbh I wish I could get a custom of one of them now ;-; but yeah those three are really nice, and yeah I don't see any "child" resemblance in them or well any of your art for the most part, anyways sorry this is long. You have lovely art! Bye bye!
Number 4 is the only one that looks kinda sus, tbh. The rest are fine!
Thank you for these references! I’ll be sure to draw my Male ShortStacks with them!
Pfffft. Child-like? Hah! Some people must be blind or stupid. Honestly though? 3 is my absolute favorite, but I like all of them.
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