10/8/19 - Recent DDOS Attacks
4 years ago
You may have noticed an increase in unexpected downtime on Fur Affinity lately. Over the past month we have been the target of dozens of DDOS attacks.
Nobody likes downtime, so we are working hand in hand with our host to mitigate and block the source of these attacks. DDOS attacks are not uncommon, and even major networks with vast resources contend with DDOS on a regular basis.
A DDOS (distributed denial of service) attack is when a network or computer botnet targets a website and floods it with more data than it can handle, saturating its connection to the point where it prevents legitimate data from passing back and forth from the site. A DDOS doesn't compromise any of your personal information nor any account security. It’s the equivalent of a digital traffic jam.
Due to the nature of how a DDOS works finding the source of the attacks is near impossible.
Generally, we are able to mitigate and brush off these attacks with minimal issue. Recent DDOS attacks managed to bypass Cloudflare’s DDOS protection resulting in unexpected downtime.
We want to make sure you, the community, are aware of the reasons for the outages and know we’re working to prevent them. DDOS mitigation is not failproof, and we are working to ensure minimal disruption to the community. We have already taken measures to mitigate future DDOSes, and will take further steps in the future as needed if they continue and persist.
Nobody likes downtime, so we are working hand in hand with our host to mitigate and block the source of these attacks. DDOS attacks are not uncommon, and even major networks with vast resources contend with DDOS on a regular basis.
A DDOS (distributed denial of service) attack is when a network or computer botnet targets a website and floods it with more data than it can handle, saturating its connection to the point where it prevents legitimate data from passing back and forth from the site. A DDOS doesn't compromise any of your personal information nor any account security. It’s the equivalent of a digital traffic jam.
Due to the nature of how a DDOS works finding the source of the attacks is near impossible.
Generally, we are able to mitigate and brush off these attacks with minimal issue. Recent DDOS attacks managed to bypass Cloudflare’s DDOS protection resulting in unexpected downtime.
We want to make sure you, the community, are aware of the reasons for the outages and know we’re working to prevent them. DDOS mitigation is not failproof, and we are working to ensure minimal disruption to the community. We have already taken measures to mitigate future DDOSes, and will take further steps in the future as needed if they continue and persist.
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It's one thing to meet one on the beach, but imagine encountering one in the sea, wherein the water can support the crab's center---it would stand almost as tall as you! :3
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Yeah. Though what they'd have to gain from DDOSing FA is anyone's guess. Though they probably have nothing better to do with their lives.
Simply put, folks on 4chan or wherever would DDoS FA because furries. “For the lulz” so to speak.
Not that I'm justifying anything, it's just that it's not exactly a mystery why the fandom would be a consistent target. Also with the obvious issue of the website not working aside, at least DDoSing is relatively harmless compared to other types of attacks on the web. No one's information got exposed, no threats. Just a website that doesn't load. Oh no, you can't look at your big titty diaper wearing anthro plane porn for a day or two. Whatever shall we do?
Basically as long as the staff does a better job with prevention, it's not actually that big of a deal. Most big websites have to deal with DDoS attacks, and FA has a long long history of them.
The fanDUMB needs to get a massive collective bitch slap and get back to enjoying anthropomorphic art and stories again.
And well I have a history of exploring the fandoms that I believe am a part of, and I can say that from experience...
That the Furry Fandom can be pretty darn dirty if you're looking for it.
If we actually went back into it the fandom would be great again, enjoying the art, writting... But no... More than half of it is drama and with Milo being banned from a con isn't certainly helping the public see the best face of the fandom, that we accept anyone regardless of gender,race,religion,beliefs... But no,gotta please the PC furs and the safe spaces.
Thanks PC... you ruined everything.
I have some goals, ambitious but still reachable
Yesterday the Minecraft Monday server got hacked and the event destroyed for example.
What the heck is wrong with that hacker or the ddoser?
Or it's some entitled child with rich parents who was never taught the purpose of rules, and proceeded to be blindsided by "wait, we actually have to follow rules?! That's freaking stupid!"
Art thieves
Art scammers
Overreacting People
Cringeworthy people that exihibits their fetish in public
Those who are in a RP mood all the time
Social Justice Warriors
Edgy People who cries and talk about suicide all the time
Obsessive compulsive People
Retarded underages who don't understand how to interact in the fandom
The list is long
But let's assume people who hate homosexuality presume every single furry is also homosexual. Then there's still quite the large gap from hate to actually physically harming anyone.
But really, most people that know of furries by proxy don't think of them as specifically gay. More weird and sometimes dangerously close to zoophillia, which is generally the major irk against the furry community from out and insiders alike.
At least from as far as I have been able to find out.
But to pull this back to the original thing. I honestly don't think anti gay folks assume furries to be gay. I find that to be mostly an internal thing. Which funnily enough backed up by facts and statistics. if I recall correctly the furry survey found that around 60% of the furry respondents to their polls are either bisexual, gay or other (excluding heterosexual).
I cannot say what the overall perception of this website is among the entire population that are aware of it, but I can totally believe that people who fancy themselves as tough guy hacker types could come at something like this with the idea of "lul faggot furries." I don't know if they DO, but if I heard that they did I would not be surprised. And from my own direct experience on this site, I dwell on the uploads and content requests I dislike more than what I am simply indifferent toward.
1.) 60% is a majority, so if someone hates people who are anything but straight, then yes, chances are good that any given furry they run into will be "a fag", and chances are vastly higher that that furry they run into supports the LGBT community. Fact is gay culture is deeply entwined within this community, and someone who hates LGBT would logically hate furries as well.
2.) this is a furry poll. It is FAR from a scientific study, and very inaccurate due to many factors (such as the fact many furries didn't participate in it) To add to this point, a anti LGBT person would more then likely never search for this information. They would just look at the community at surface level (which comes off to homophobic people as super gay/accepting of gay)
3.) Pretty much the nail in the coffin, we are talking about backward thinking hateful individuals. They are not using logic to determine who to like and dislike. Nothing you say will sway their opinion, if they have seen a gay furry/ a furry that supports gay's (which lets be honest is like 99% of the community, if you are a homophobic furry you are a VERY strange anomaly) then they will conclude that we are the enemy.
Words are just words, and only have whatever value one gives them by reacting accordingly.
But people are pretty weak generally now-a-days with paper-thin skin.
Or is that skinphobic to say now? I can never keep up with the word police anymore.
Also, yes, I know this is a lateass reply.
Red pilled and based asf
Honestly, if Governments can't handle the pressure, how could MFF possibly handle it??
Only attack known to date was the Chlorine attack at MFF a few years ago, and NOBODY DIED!
Yes and yes, you cannot dispute the fact that people suffered badly, and well if no one died well then that's good but it wouldn't take much untill someone did die.
But to blanket state It's because of the fandom's strong LGBT ties. Any time a convention gets attacked, it's because they hope to kill a few queer people in the process. is moronic at best, and only thinking that the fanDUMB is pure gay , stupid at best. There are hetero furries out there (myself included). Admittedly the fandom is largely gay. But hetero furries can easily get caught in the same attack.
Plus this wasn't the first incident at this particular convention. MFF had a history of attacks, ranging from the fire alarms being pulled at all hours to disrupt the con, to smoke bombs being used to even military grade smoke bombs (Far more intense and heavy). This has been going on for well over a dozen years. Most of it is for the pure harassment value. Suspects have usually been from Something Awful. SA has had boner for almost 20 years against the furry community. I was at a tiny Texas con in 2004 were 3 SA goons were decorating the furry posters and fliers with their hand grenade logo.Some of the furries there overreacted as well, going as far as calling the police due to 'Terrorist threats' (The fliers left by SA). Anthrocon had them harass the furries the first 2-3 years the con was in Pittsburgh. Kage quickly mocked them and they eventually left, though safe bet they still have a few goons present to catch the stupidity that always happens at a large con to report upon.
Its not because they were targeting the gays. They were targeting the furries because they hate the furries. Period.
Furries are notorious for flying off the handle over the smallest thing, over reacting to anything said, shown or mentioned. Much of it real or mostly...imagined (the nazi hunts a prime example). But furries also bring this on themselves. The various factions within the community are constantly 'In your Face' about their kinks, beliefs, craves. The Baby furs, the Plushophiles, Zoo furs, Zoosadists (Kero ring a bell?) Pup players, Bug collectors (STD fans), Sex dungeon furs, MAPS, Pedophiles (Which are also oddly protected, many of them, or overlooked/ignored) Overly in your face gay furs, Nazi furs (actually fewer than you expect) and the Sex in suit fursuiters all play a part that gets the mundanes to wrinkle their noses at the community and label the fanDUMB a sexually deviant freak show.
Plus the outsiders like SA Goons, the various 4Chan and 8Chan crews love tweeking those furry noses because they know they'll get a reaction and drama. They thrive on it,live for it and laugh at the furry reactions. Then go out and do it some more. These groups also expose the various furries that stand out and stain the fandom (Growley, Kero , Foxler, Dylan Hafetepen prime examples) and milk these drama cows for the laffs and proof that the fanDUMB is a sick bunch of sexual deviants.
I've been in this fanDUMB before it was a fandom. The worst we dealt with at most a couple drunks and a stoner. Furry was at one time, yes, viewed oddly, but had a reputation for being reliable, not trashing hotels and not having ambulance calls numerous times a day for alcohol/drug abuse that the larger cons today have. I was there back in 1987 at BayCon when the infamous 'Skunkfuckers' fliers were posted all over the con. Posted by a few hard core Sci Fi fans who thought the furries as freaks and took down a furry party flier, altered, copied and posted the Skunkfuckers flier. It became the norm a few years, mainly on the west coast, always at BayCon.
Furries bring this on themselves. Not just because they are LGBTQ, but because they are furries. And as long as the furries pull a Chicken Little at each and every thing that portrays them negatively, its going to continue.
And the basic fact you are saying all of this denotes your very sad sad lack of actual intelligence or time taken to understand the subject matter, my little hyooman.
Don't think of this as attacks from outside.
As well they may not be able to fund it, if they can't go through other groups who will cut them off in similar vein, such as with Paypal, which has in more than a few cases threatened FA even to shut them off if they didn't add specific rules into the COC.
At this point the "if you don't like it go make your own" arguement has grown nearly more braindead than the dead rotting corpse of a horse people keep beating with that stick of an arguement, since even if someone was to make their own site, they might not have the opening for the resources, they might be accused of allowing hate-groups and be shut down without evidence to back it up and they might not be able to afford the influx of upkeep necissary as it grows.
Weasyl nearly failed when it started because of the rules it allowed even though it was attempting to make a more unified platform for furry artists, as well they were nearly overloaded due to the influx of people wanting use the site as well, they kind of both got lucky and unlucky when their site traffic slowed to basically "everyone has an account, but nobody posts here" status.
If you want another example than a furry site, look at how many alternatives to Youtube that have tried over the years and how many of them have been taken down for supporting hate-groups even when their TOS outright prohibited hate-groups or how many of them got overloaded by how many people wanted to use them as a youtube alternative, overloading the servers they could afford. Spoiler: it's more than a hundred attempts at this point.
When your own defenders admit you've got problems, it suddenly makes sense why people keep trying to take you down.
At the same time, it is alot of effort and money to build a site from scratch and a huge amount of risk in the current political climate where someone going "i saw a swaztika on a post that was removed six seconds later!! the site is harboring nazis!" can get your site ousted from places like paypal.
When FA introduced "shinies" I said this would put a target on FA's back for big-time cyber criminals. At the time I insisted for full HTTPS for the above reason. The fact they got a DDOS and problems with registration back-to-back does suggest the possibility. Obviously, I can't see the backend myself; that's just my speculation.
I hope FA's staff are keeping track of accounts and access logs and aren't getting distracted by the DDOS. Attacking the front door is a classic way of drawing attention away from the back door. I wouldn't want to see users' PayPal accounts getting emptied next.
With no information at all I’m imagining it gets flagged for review at a $10k spike and shut down with all transactions being reversed at a $20k spike, for example.
There's also the fact that many people HAVE tried starting an alternative art site. But aside from Inkbunny, who has a decent userbase, I haven't seen this succeed. All the other alternatives I've seen are ghost towns if you compare them to FA even though they're doing everything right they just never got the popularity they need.
FA doesn't have a monopoly, but it has a majority that's proven difficult to make alternative websites viable.
I'm not sure if that answers your question, but I'm also having trouble parsing if there's a question in there.
It's still stupid, but it's not like it's hard.
1: What? You think people go through the work of building a botnet just to attack an art site?
All of them believe they're doing what's right, but some of them are harming others in various ways, and either don't understand that they are, or don't really mind if they are.
Says who?
Wouldn’t be surprised but you got receipts?
I can only hope this could be the WEAK UP call for FA staff to get an upgrade.
If it's computer breaks, he can just use another one to do it with the same infected computers
Also, i am pretty sure these attacks are comming from groups like on 4chan, commonly they do these stuff, so it is not a single person, it is a group of persons
A DDOS attack is so hard to prevent because it is 99.9% of the time a botnet attacking and they make it so that it is indistinguishable from legitimate requests, like every computer in the botnet sending a request every 10 Seconds, which is normal.
-coughs- Sorry, had to :P
It's been like 5 years since you sold this site to a company that really doesn't have any business owning a furry social site - no updates since then.
Not to mention that since 2005 very little has changed.
Forgive me for not having any faith in your promises to deliver results.
This ain't easy and it's a dangerous step that should be accomplished veeeery carefully as it might damage the website! (it's true, backups exist, but still...) Deviantart took ages before releasing their "Eclipse" version... and they are like ten times (both in size and economical availability) furaffinity!
Time will give its fruits :)
I'm not saying it's easy, just that any amount of effort would/should have been seen by now if there was any.
Mate, even changing a single character in the code could cause a total collapse. It took Windows more than a decade to change from DOS to NT, and even if you change things, people just might hate it, just look a At Windows Vista, Which Took Microsoft overall 5 years to develop a RTM Release, 6 for Retail and 10 year's total support. FA ain't Microsoft, so if Microsoft took 3 years to Develop Vista (Vista Development was Reset in 2004, the year it was meant to be originally released, meaning that Vista was 3 years late when it did release) when rushing, I wouldn't be surprised if FA took 15 years to make a drastic change, heck it took DA 10 years to develop their Eclipse Update, AND it isn't even Done, yet.
Even Google is still developing the new YT Studio and ain't done, still took 3 years before many people got to see it.
Mate, 5 years to Redo the entire CODE of FA with a team FA's Size is like asking you to finish a 30km Marathon in 30 Seconds.
Heck I wouldn't be surprised if just changing the way comments are sorted took 8 months.
Weasyl changed the thumbnail layout and that angered half the users which left the site and is probably why the site has sat stagnate since.
Sofurry did the same thing in 2009/2010 and that killed the site forcing the admin to redesign it twice but that damage was done and a number of the users left to never come back even after the changes were "fixed".
The less said about DA the better.
Honestly I think it wouldn't be a good idea to overhaul FA's GUI. It servers its purpose well. Maybe add a few features (like they did with the quicker image access bar and the folders), but not change the whole appearance significantly.
However am quite surprised that DA has only 6 times more views that FA o.o I'd have expected a much higher discrepancy.
https://www.similarweb.com/website/.....uraffinity.net
For instance: The possibility to change the nickname as deviantart does, is a possibility... or also, a slight improvement of the current GUI (a bit like the beta version compared to the classic version)... or again, stats like "views per hour" that would allow an user to see when their watchers are more active and when not (and therefore when to post)... or other stuff!
Those are examples, but there are many things that might improve the experience without changing everything as dA did.
Deviantart actually has always had a single, big, severe problem:
The.Staff.Does.Not.Consider.The.User.
I wasn't even able to post comments whilst using it.
I seriously hope FA won't convert the entire site to a modern broken mess like DA. The entire Eclipse project seriously looks like it was lazily thrown together in 48 hours just to stay relevant. And since this is a website we're talking about and not a separate program I really don't get why they couldn't leave the option to switch back to the classic theme at any point instead of forcing it by default. In fact this was such a bad idea it's comparable to NVidia forcing you to have an account in order to download drivers or forcing game scan.
And all I saw but this attitude in this website, so I wouldn't worry :)
Another reason I'm not fond if him, tbh.
Putting hyper fat and hyper muscle in fat and muscle, not hyper, for example.
Or worse, PEOPLE WHO DON'T USE CATEGORIES ANYWAY!
I’m thinking recommendation algorithms, getting rid of species/gender category labels and just dumping that data into the keywords, maybe add “allow suggested keywords” as an option when uploading (and add the interface to do suggestions, and some sort of way to let artists choose to turn suggestions on for all their old uploads at once), then letting artists appoint “suggestion mods” to approve/deny suggested keywords on their images, and finally having a “report image” button that doesn’t actually do anything except make a counter go up, at least for the first year or two
I'm kinda confused why you're asking me this when you've already named a bunch of things that could be added. The only one I don't quite follow is how you say a report button wouldn't do anything for the first year or two. Not sure if typo or... I'll just say that I think a report button would be responded to okay. Actually, I've had fairly good dealings in prompt response time with the current method of reporting. The staff there seem pretty good but the reporting system itself definitely needs an overhaul. That's not the same staff that would make any of the features we'd like to see available though.
It seems a lot of this thread has turned into question/complaints about updates (or the lack thereof) and plenty of people have named several things so I feel like I'm just repeating what others have already said at this point. The ability to change you name and having blacklisted keywords seems to be other popular ones people have asked for, and that's nothing new.
But I get why it has evolved into that discussion too. Like, I don't typically say much about these things but I pay attention to them. With Dragoneer talking about updates again, that made me want to point at the elephant in the room; we've heard all of this before. The DDoS attacks suck but I wasn't really affected by it this time around. My irritation lies solely in Dragoneer saying "Site updates are something we are working on behind the scenes. We have some compliance to do because of CCPA, but improving features and adding new content is on our radar.". I heard that 5 years ago....and I heard it 5 years before that too. Empty words. I'd rather him just say nothing since actions speak louder and there's been next to nothing done. At this point, it's just damn annoying -WAY- more annoying than a DDoS outage.
Also, the fact that the fact that this website still runs on BBS CODE is embarrassing at this point.
Yeah, great. Since... when? Planned for...?
If I click on browse to look for interesting new art, I have to wade through pictures of gore, scat, fat, rape and other ugly stuff I cannot hide, no matter if I block the artists drawing that. They could at least finally improve the blocking on this site so you do no longer see the people that are on this otherwise very much pointless list.
A. By that logic, Patreon, Tipjar, and Ko-Fi are just "cute" and nobody would use them when they can just Paypal directly OH WAIT. B. You haven't looked at the settings for Shinies, have you? They work using PayPal! C. An on-site tipping mechanism is more convenient than going off-site to do it, especially when the off-site ones (especially Patreon) are showing signs of turning their backs on some of the adult content that's popular here. D. More people will use it as they get used to it being there.
2. I agree with you about needing better filtering. You can filter the old-fashioned way (the minus sign) while searching at least, but it could be better.
3. The blocklist isn't pointless. True, it doesn't filter out content from blocked users, but it does prevent them from messaging you, posting shouts on your page, etc.
4. It sounds like what they've mostly been working on is "under the hood" stuff that FA wasn't up-to-code on and which is probably considered more important than quality-of-life and convenience features by the people who enforce the standards. I suspect it's taking so long because A. it's a small team and B. I would bet money they're having to do years and years worth of catch-up work because prior to the IMVU sale they were probably completely slacking off on standards compliance on top of slacking off on features.
2. The old-fashioned way really doesn't work too well, yeah, it's sad...
3. Honestly the blocklist of Ferzu is the best example of how it should work. You block a person and from that moment on you cannot see them or their content anymore and the other way around. That's what it's for, right? Preventing someone from messaging me and posting shouts (another thing btw that needs a big makeover..) on my page is nice, but it's just not enough. Not if you block them because they post triggering content such as rape glorification.
4. Thing about that - we don't get any updates. Under the hood is bad if the community is clearly unhappy. It's like when I commission an artist and they don't have a public to-do-list I can see myself on. Have they forgotten me? Are they working on it? Am I seventh in line maybe? We can't tell what - or if anything - is going on because there are no public updates. No "hey, we're working on X, Y is on the horizon, Z has to wait til that's done", no milestones, no anything. And if anyone comments on this, they get either ignored, blocked or silenced by having their comments hidden. Have you noticed that the staff almost never answers to those comments? It's ridiculous.
I mean.. why? ._.' It is part of the community idea to tag and otherwise fewer people get to see your works.
Probably a feature to suggest tags like IB has it, would be a compromise.
most importantly is no one has found me through searching tags. ive been found through word of mouth, sharing in discords, cross posting to e621, and most importantly, the front page. they see something they like, fav a bunch, and then send a note for commission. i just dont find it worth my time to tag.
I will just copy my last answer to this:
Let people add tags like on other artwork gallery sites. Works on there, would work here, too. Of course older artwork wouldn't be in the right tags from the get-go, but over time for sure, especially if it has sensitive content in it.
Then make it possible to report false tagging and you have a solution for that, too.
Yes, I am aware of the impact. That's why it should be coming asap and not pushed down the list by other useless stuff.
You might not mind seeing all those things, but for a large amount of people it's a serious pain in the behind. Opening the browsing section of FA is disgusting if you aren't into all that kind of stuff that is posted here every minute. And honestly; with the system mentioned above you don't even have to complain if you are too lazy yourself, since other people would be able to tag your stuff for you if they see things on it that they deem important (scat/ws, diaper, vore, fat, etc.). This fandom is full of very very ugly stuff and there are lots of people who don't want to see that. And before you say "don't like it, don't click it"; the thumbnails are big enough to be bothered by them if the inflated pooltoy pony blob fills in the entirety of it or the cut off balls are held right into your face.
There should be an option to have those things hidden if you do not want to see them.
Would you rather want such a forced tagging system which /other people/ do for you or have custom thumbnails enforced that hide all that shit together with a "TW: XX" title so people refrain from clicking?
But honestly, since you blocked me already, I have an idea what the answer will be. Lazy and butthurt, buhu.
Additionally, id be able to watch more artists too, as there is a lot of themes I have no interest in but dang can they be great artists who draw more than one theme. Ive passed up watching a number of great artists to avoid constantly seeing a certain single fetish they particularly have a lot of interest in that disgusts me.
Blacklists are a win win for both artists and watchers.
Ps: other people being able to add tags works fine on all other art sites. Tag abuse is practically non existent and those sites have a rule where tag abuse is a reportable offense. Just like how spam and harassment is against rules, you just merely report. The system works very fine and successfully across many other platforms.
That's sad. Incredibly sad. And if we lose guys like deermary just because they are too lazy and selfish to put a simple "snuff" or "gore" tag so other people can enjoy being on this site, I don't shed a tear, really...
How do you propose that be done/enforced/regulated? Are you aware of the impacts it would have and how would you suggest they be dealt with?
Then make it possible to report false tagging and you have a solution for that, too.
Yes, I am aware of the impact. That's why it should be coming asap and not pushed down the list by other useless stuff.
As for exclusion filtering (We already have inclusion filtering at least, c/o the "@keyword" operator; I wonder if that could be inverted?) by keywords.. Implementing that at all would make it easier to isolate the non-compliant art and poke the users about it. And having it would give users more incentive to properly tag. I do have to say that from what I've seen, keyword filtering does rely pretty heavily on the honor system on sites that have it, large or small.
Ever use Wikipedia? It's completely open to be altered by the public, but still maintains a very reliable track record of holding accurate info. Sure, you shouldn't take everything you read there as fact, but guess what, this is a art sight. God forbid you occasional run into content that doesn't match it's tag, you will live.
And from a programmatic standpoint... I'm going to surmise that you have no idea what you're talking about. If you do, please feel free to put your skill where your mouth is and design a workable tagging system. It's not that hard to implement, right? No matter that FA has scaling problems with submissions when the artist has too many watchers and the alerts can't be populated in time.
I Wouldn't be surprised if FA has been working on a total rewrite for 7 years, and still haven't finished with the current beta just being a step gap.
The only thing that you did is put more invasive ads over the page.
There's people who even want to upload stuff like literature and comics. But the method of doing so is both archaic and hacky. The way gallery images are hosted is less convenient to sites like twitter; a feed where people can add likes/comment without having to go to the "view image" page.
There's a list of new features and content that I can only imagine has been pending for several years. I wonder if that list is even based on what people had been asking for. When I saw the reaction to shinies it was like "Oh cool, but when are we getting x, y and z"
Compared to other sites, FA doesn't provide watchers and content-creators with features they'd want. It's not impossible to use, but I'm jealous of sites like tapas.io and twitter. Sure just use those, but I'm not comfortable uploading my furry art to non-furry-exclusive spaces like those. I'm certainly considering it though; with its instability being so common, if FA is a good option for hosting content.
The bulk of the furry community is here and that's why I still use FA. I'd love for it to be our cultural hub where all the content creators are instead of scattered everywhere. But a jalopy only gets people so far.
* The [Media] embedding apparently no longer works as shown on the help page. How does one do it now, and are there any other tags that work differently now?
* Could we have an on-site text editor for story posts? I come here with experience on Wattpad and Reddit, both of which have methods of posting stories on-site, and the former offers separate descriptions, draft saving, and even on-line comments (which would be nice, but not necessary). As someone who is used to writing on-site, this would be a good way to help facilitate my writing when I start posting here.
I once had an issue with my own servers I rented from OVH years ago when there was a massive Layer 2 attack on all of their Routers and Switches for that datacenter..now that was a scary day.
Others try to purposely inconvenience sites enough that it costs the site $$$
"some people just want to watch the world burn"
How about getting in contact with them? I'm sure they'd give you tips, because the amount of attacks on FA is ridiculous.
Weasyl is still too new for attackers to bother.
DA is one of the leading digital art sites out there, with mixed communities, people hate it for how weird it can be so i can definitely see potential for a DDOS. Especially because there's multiple targets to hit.
That's my assumption on that matter at least.
Big companies like Blizzard get hit still and their worth more than FA and dA combined so maybe sit this one out.
Blizzard gets hit because of professional gamers. Clogging their access means lower traffic for Blizzard, thus less profit. So comparing Blizzard hits to FA is pretty funny, because FA is tiny in comparison and the hackers get nothing out of it aside from "haha animal fuckers take that".
tl;dr:
DDoS attacks can't steal information. The only thing they do is take down a service for the sake of taking it down, and it's really hard to stop an attacker determined enough to DDoS you.
https://twitter.com/furaffinity
I always visit FA's twitter if the website seems to have problems. Good luck guys!
Hope that this will be taken more seriously as this has been an issue for a long while.
Blizzard is also a company, so disruption of business on that level consitutes a cyber-terrorist attack. I don't know about Reddit or Twitter but FA is "just" an art gallery that itself doesn't make money (that I know of) so they can have it investigated the same way.
However such attacks are quite common and thus cannot all be investigated by external authorities.
They've got too much... *clap, clap* time on their hands. It's hard to believe such a calamity.
They've got too much time on their hands and it's ticking away, ticking away from them!
Denial of Service attacks aren't security in a normal understanding of the word with websites. Your data isn't being attacked. It's basically somebody setting up a giant network of bots to spam FA's server with so many requests that it becomes nearly impossible for most people to use. And for reference, a request is something as simple as trying to load up FA's main page.
My bad XP
It's even possible for a site to get DDoS'd by an overload of legitimate requests from actual users *cough*TFW2005 during Toy Fair*cough*
It's New York City. They're trying to make FA's traffic like New York City, but with only one person causing the traffic.
Resource intensive, I suspect that goes without sayin', but howzzit done? I have my guesses. Wiki and Google--for once--knowz nuthin'. Surprising.
(Just mulling over a thought about dis, that'll require a whomping injection of technical expertise to follow up on. Oh sure, I've got six months of free time that can die in a good cause. :- ) )
fwbrown61
Real ridiculous real fast, since a blizzard of DDOS packets just arrived in the past five minutes. We'll just put a coupla
spare supercomputers onna job, we'll know who committed the DDOS dirty deed in minutes. Yeeah, that's the ticket. :- )
'S what the DDOS perps are counting on. Finding 'em [by massive backrouting] is a whompingly intractable problem.
And possibly futile if the servers don't respond to the query, or notwithstanding potential encryption issues, or if there's
a way to spoof packet IP addresses (is there?)
On the other paw...
You've heard of Seti@home? Millions of people donate a smidge of comp time--in a legit type of botnet--to solve
intractable radio astronomy problems re. seti research re. monster petabyes of data to wade through.
Intriguing notion. So howzabout a similar scale []legit] botnet that spends it's time doing a giga-blizzard of backrouting?
'S not raw computing power that's the key, but rather a fiendish-huge number of comps with Internet connections
who are all working concurrently. Lo irony, that's how a DDOS works.
Finding aliens: We'll leave that to Seti@home. Lifting the veil of anonymity from the DDOS scum: Ah, now that might be
a tad more practical.
Or is on paper. Whadda we do when we find out who dun a DDOS? Target and launch the ICBMs, like, the ones with
the megaton warheads?
We-ll... :->
Let's hurl this [maybe not original] idea at the wall, <Splat!>, and see what sticks, mmmm?
fwbrown61
since I'm assuming this trace-a-packet op is both doable and reasonably easy and folks know how to do it.
Nicht so much easy, is it? A server might smooothly handle millions/billions of packets. Storing any amount of data
or metadata about that traffic: Now wait a minute... A limited cache might be in play, but not the kind of look-up DB
that a tracing op would need to tap.
And would that trace op be reserved for the sysadmins, not an outside requester? (presuming that packet data hasn't
been flushed from the cache). I'll guess yes, and maybe I'm even right.
If a trace op means a request to the sysadmins, and not the server itself, then whoops, bad fail incoming. To quote
Fagin from the musical Oliver, I think I'd better think it out again. :- ) (And now I'm thunking about a different idea that
might work differently).
Aside: Comment from one Adam413 suggested that Cloudflare does spiffy with attacks based on OSI layers 3, 4,
and 7--sorta know what this means--but does less well with combined attacks that aim at Layers 2 & 7, or
4 & 6. How arcane. No idea if that's relevant to FA.
Annnd we are now thoroughly, whompingly, outta of my pay grade. What was our first clue? :- )
fwbrown61
From an artist's perspective this also serves as a reminder not to invest too much into one social media site, especially when it comes to how people can keep in touch with you about commissions and things. Always have alternatives you can utilize in case one site goes down.
Nobody:
Absolutely nobody:
Furries still upset about pron denied: "WhY U cAN'T UpDatE WebSItE To BLocK DdoS!?,,"
I think when many people see/experience connectivity and other issues on FA, they are just reminded of the repeated issues in its history.
The most jarring, is its appearance and functionality and a lack of meaningful updates under its current management. That's probably why a lot of people point to a lack of updates.
These two things are separate issues.
I only made my comment earlier in response to Dragoneer talking about "working on updates" because he's been saying that for years without following through. FA administration has a history of poor management and I truly feel that Dragoneer wants the fame but not the responsibility of managing FA. His decision to sell FA to IMVU despite having multiple offers from other furries convinces me if this especially considering that he worked out a deal that would leave him with a lot of control of the site. Any other arrangement of transferring ownership would not allow this. Adam413 also pointed out that Cloudflare only protects against certain attacks unless you obtain a different contract with them. Perhaps this cost more and IMVU doesn't want to fund it? I don't know much about that so I couldn't say for certain.
TLDR; People are combining different problems but it doesn't mean separate problems don't exist and poor management is most certainty the cause for most of it.
Resources is a matter of money and IMVU has more of it. But considering how FA averages 15M - 20M visitors on a given day and they couldn't figure out how to monetize it themselves... well, that's discerning to say the least.
You actually posted an opinion to a meme( and my meme was quite low cost).
1st: i targeted people thinking DDoS attacks are a result of bad site handling, which deserved mockery with all the info offered in the journal.
2ndly: Dragoneer is the George Lucas of the fandom, people gives him shit, can't wait to see the fandom celebrating him giving up FA to IMVU's full control or something & shit getting worse. I won't say he handles the community well... But seeing the community, he's probably doing his best (anyway i don't really care tbh)
Finally : countermeasures can cost up to a million of $ while a massive DDOS attack cost 1k$ to 10k$ even for free if you have the infrastructure.
So yeah. Definitively IMVU could afford that kind of protection (THIS IS SARCASM), or some other furry who wouldn't have 1/10th of IMVU's worth(THIS IS SARCASM (again) ).
Finally: the meme is towards specific people commenting the journal, not randoms combining 2 problems... I mean those guys are fine. The other tho, are laughable.
Really? Please remember that Dragoneer -did not- create FA. He bought it from the original creators when they ran into serious health issues and had to sell most everything they owned to cover the expenses. While it's nice that the original owners were able to recover and we can thank Dragoneer for being able to afford the expense, if it wasn't him, it would have been someone else. The original creators have said many times that they are not pleased with the way FA has developed.
I'm not even a fan of Star Wars (live long and prosper) but at least George Lucas is a creator. Dragoneer is not. You give him far too much credit than he's worth.
I'm not a "yes man" and never will be.
K.
Honestly, you're missing the point of my whole argument buddy, but sure go argue on my figurative argument about dragoneer while taking it literally... JFC
Sounds like you have unresolved problems with him, send him a note or whatever ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
FA and CloudFlare are trying their hardest but sometimes, outages may still occur.
https://imgur.com/Bh41b30
Like Florida and Hurricanes....
And when you think of furry communities, FA is easily near or at the top of the list.
I hope people who do DDOS attacks will get a burned-out computer one day
Answer: A DDoS attacker
Curse you DDoS attackers!
eh, I'm just content to have a place to throw my art up on. I dont care if it's pretty or modern or whatever.
I mean, regardless FA does function, and it's easy to upload stuff. So, I don't really see the issue.
old fa is simple and basic and not a problem. just click click post. boom done
When an attack happens, does all the data usually come from one "source" or multiple "sources"?
Because if it is one source perhaps Cloudfare could implement something such as if one "source" goes beyond a data limit their access is temporarily shut off to avoid overflow and DDoS?
Then again I might be misunderstanding the nature of DDoS and the situation.
If it's coming from a single source, it would be DoS (without the "Distributed" part).
IP Banning a single address already exists for DoS attacks but it's really easy to spoof or change your public IP address.
Even if CloudFlare blocks them, they can circumvent it by spoofing or changing their public IP address.
However, a DoS attack is usually insignificant and should not be noticeable.
It's the DDoS attacks that you should worry about.
Blizzard gets hit with DDOS attacks quite a bit, and even with their bandwidth and gear, still get impacted.
FA just gets haters.
Nah for real though it's worth having a go at cloudflare for not doing their job properly.
ddos hurty, capitalism bad, me move to eyebee
for some reason after this recent one , i`m having some issues
...how reassuring. Y'all got something to hide? :'3
Not really sure what makes these attacks even worth doing.
How do people not know what a ddos is when you literally described it in the journal? This community I swear
Don't worry, these kind of things happen to major sites all the time. it's just some downtime; your data won't be compromised.
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Close enough :p
Anyone who's been on the internet long enough knows what a damn DDoS is. At this rate it's your guys' continued incompetence to update basic site security and bring this thing out of the goddamn dark ages that it baffles me that you'd patronize us with the definition of a DDoS.
How about instead of making excuses with this, you actually get off your asses and work.
It insults me as a computer scientist that you guys continue to be inept to your own problems that it's actually a game to see if you can crash this site quicker than the last guy.
all depend on you guys for content hosting so heavily, but the site being down is becoming so common that it's practically just a routine thing at this point.
Isn't there SOMETHING that can be done? Some manner of preventative security measure that doesn't cost a fortune?
AFAIK there isn't one for Apple though.
Also his his (ex) wife who immediately cucked him when he fell out of public favor
People have offered to improve the site for FREE before. He turns them away.
The coders that get paid quit because they get treated like shit.
But he still pulls in the money off this rotting carcass of a site by doing nothing but posting about wine/food he's stuffed his face with on twitter and playing ESO all day so who cares???
I swear FA and DA could be the perfect setting for a halloween ghost town, that's the vibes i'm getting from both places right now.
Mlp is up to debate still on where that lies lol.
I want to say this is the cycle of the net with sites sinking but it's happening at much a faster pace that i do not know anymore.
I heard twitter is slowly sinking due to being toxic but any site can hold that.
Fucking tone/wrongthink police are everywhere
He had the chances, he just never took them.
Wish I could say otherwise though.
"So how about you actually hire (and pay good wages) to actual programmers that know how to make a website?"
Where to start with this? There's a beta in progress, and that's going to be the new FA. Limited budget that IMVU gives to FA means they work with what they have, and to not hire programmers because they are hellishly expensive is probably the main reason why the site still runs on ancient code.
"Anyone who's been on the internet long enough knows what a damn DDoS is."
"At this rate it's your guys' continued incompetence to update basic site security and bring this thing out of the goddamn dark ages that it baffles me that you'd patronize us with the definition of a DDoS."
Do you even know what DDoS means without Googling it? It's not a code issue or a site issue. It's a network of computers all making requests to FA's servers at a rate too high for the servers to handle.
The servers don't give a shit about priority. It's treated as first come first serve, even if the request is from a human or not. But too many requests build up a backlog, and use all the resources it has allocated.
As Dragoneer said, it's like a digital traffic jam. It feels like rush hour. Cars are moving slowly, and you're likely to be late for work.
Let me link you this: https://cybermap.kaspersky.com/ It's not entirely showing a map of DDoS attacks but legitimate hacking attempts that a security company picks up from analysing the internet in real-time. Spend 5 minutes on there and count how many attacks it shows.
Now do the math and find out how many attacks happen every 5 minutes throughout the year. Hacks and attacks happen a lot more often than your naive little mind thinks.
"How about instead of making excuses with this, you actually get off your asses and work."
But that is the excuse. The truthful excuse. They were DDoS'd. It happens anytime, and can happen to anyone. FA provide the resources to make this site free for everyone, and they don't ask for regular income to support it.
So much data gets stored on their servers, it's amazing how much disk space they've accumulated so far to accommodate your desperate need to store your dirty artwork that gets forgotten about after a week and sat to collect dust, figuratively speaking.
"It insults me as a computer scientist that you guys continue to be inept to your own problems that it's actually a game to see if you can crash this site quicker than the last guy."
A computer scientist wouldn't be this ignorant and think the problem is the site, not the hateful body or bodies that want to watch the world burn for their amusement. It makes me believe you're not a computer scientist at all, probably an intern at some small web hosting company.
If you knew even an ounce of how the internet works and what risks it carries, you wouldn't have posted most of what you just said.
Loads of websites, like FA, run behind CloudFlare to take advantage of the protection and features they offer. But as more and more websites go behind CloudFlare, it makes cyber criminals dig harder finding exploits and workarounds to confuse CloudFlare's DDoS mitigation system.
And when their protection fails, all fingers point at CloudFlare because they didn't do a better job at mitigating it. And even then, they are actively improving and implementing features to detect it in the future.
And on the subject of "updating the site", people are going to bitch and whine when the new version comes out, and you likely will too because nobody likes change.
Most users have become accustomed to FA's current layout - they know where to find a feature, they know how to work the uploads page, they know the tricks to getting better search results etc.
I should know, I'm a web developer. And I've had my share of people whining about change to a website I've worked on.
First off, how dare you challenge my credibility as a web developer. I have more skills than you do and know a lot more than you think I do.
Secondly, I'm shocked that you, of all people, defends the bandaid fixes this site continues to shove down our throats because they're too lazy to actually run a site. The servers wouldn't be a problem if they actually knew how to run things.
Thirdly, yes I know what a goddamn DDoS is, I went to school for it. If I'm a computer scientist, wouldn't I be educated on the topic? .-.
And, before you take the time to dissect someone's comment, why don't you check your authority on the situation before pulling the "I know more than you" card.
It is the site's fault if they continue to have attacks repeatedly and fail to properly back up their systems.
You lost all credibility the second you said that.
This post wasn't about the site or its fucking features nor was it a request for you to cry about it in the fucking comment section.
The post was an explanation for those that do not understand what happened or why it happened.
For someone that is apparently 22 you sure act like a fucking 12 year old.
Get off your high horse and instead of bitching about a site YOU KEEP USING, actually go "study" some more and put your time to better use.
By all means, before you attempt to hop up my arse like you did with the other guy, I'm in no way attempting to defend FA's staff or the whole last 10+ years of bullshit this site has gone through, on all avenues. I've personally been the target of staff here after their hilarious excuse of leaving it to biased staff to control what people are allowed and not allowed to upload (I had inside help determine this, years after the actual issue, btw). If anything, I agree with your original points that something does need changing, and so much so that it's drastic enough to unfuck the fucked.
So, again, before you fly off the handle and try rubbing your degree's ego in my face, I am full agreement with you on some of your points, both original and following. But having an internet tough guy pissing contest isn't going to solve it any faster than waiting on staff to sort themselves out.
But FA is like a cheap 20$ hooker. You know you shouldn't use it but you keep doing it because it's the only thing you can afford. Sites like Weasyl and Toyhouse would be fucking fantastic alternatives to FA, only if they got more traffic, out of beta accesses, and more users to contribute to their usage to justify their existence. Places like Furry Network only promote popufurs (and run by popufur) and people with numbers (it's like being a partner on twitch), and we all know about the dumpster fire that InkBunny is: reserved for the pedos and rape apologists. Last option is DeviantArt, but uploads would have to be strictly mature art, where there's no erections or penetration going on, abiding by their whole 'artistic nudity' which is why so much of it actually exists if you look in the right spots on there. But here we all are, still using the charred and burnt remains of what is FA. People would have to en masse out of here to go to other sites and places before this place finally bites the final, proverbial bullet.
In any case, have a good one
Since you claim to be so clever with your profession, why not offer yourself as a web developer to FA? Perhaps you can save the day and be the hero, or you could end up hanging your head in shame when a bug is found that deletes everyone's submissions because you forgot to sanitise inputs. oops.
You've repeatedly and dramatically misrepresented OneWithLogic's positions. He may not be the most mature person in the world but I'm more likely to believe his claims over yours. Simply because I'll believe an angry complainer long before I believe a bald-faced liar. Check your attitude.
Are you able to show us an example of your skills? A simple list of sites you've designed in the past that are completely totally absolutely DDOS-proof will suffice.
Also, he may or may not have understood that posting to an announcement about DDOS creates an implication that he's replying to it, and therefore may not be talking as "generally" as it would seem if his posts were removed from that context. If he is able to confirm that this implication was unintentional, and that he is indeed "speaking generally", then fine, at least I can accept that. (Or if you are able to explain how you are somehow able to read his mind and know exactly what his original intent was, that would suffice as well.)
My challenge that he backs up his claim to have "skills" still stands, though.
Given that he was knowledgeable enough to avoid saying DDOS attacks are easily prevented - even after being goaded multiple times - I determined he did know this. Determining someone's true ability is simple enough if one is willing to listen.
I can tell you're getting geared up for a fight (the parenthetical in the second paragraph), so, if you intend to fire back more debate techniques I will be ceasing this dialogue. I am autistic and have spent a decade studying psychology and sociology just so I can understand normal people. On top of my job as a coder. I don't need to prove anything to you.
You may see his attitude, or perhaps mine, as unjust. But those who are unjust themselves have little right to demand anything of the accused, and may well find themselves rightfully accused in turn. Remember that, because it will serve you well in social situations long beyond this discussion. I offer this advice as a peaceable way to alleviate your frustration.
My next and only remaining question was going to be why you were so eager to leap to the defense of someone behaving so badly, but I have my answer now.
Nothing more needs to be said. Good bye.
I wonder when this thread of comments is going to be hidden...
Stopping these attacks at the webserver end is pointless because it's akin to putting a dam against a river flowing downhill at the bottom of the hill. Put the dam at the top and suddenly the whole thing starts to make sense.
The varied nature of DDOS attacks makes it equally pointless to do what CloudFlare is trying to do. I respect their efforts but all they've really done is put a dam at the middle of the hill. It's still gonna overflow; as I think this FA DDOS proves. You need to attack these types of problems at the source or the current will always find a way around your stopgap.
It's true that some countries will be stubborn when it comes to blocking DDOS (since they probably sponsor said attacks), but then we can just block whatever traffic comes out from their servers on ours. And hold them accountable internationally, which I think politicians love to do, yes?
Once you cut the computer's service line the computer can send all the little digital signals over the line it likes. The most it can do at that point is cause so much signal noise that nearby modems drop some packets. Which I think would probably kill their own network card.
The actual resources to do it are spensive
Yes, sites can have great security and can work, but as at the top near the address sidebar states that this site is ''not secure ''
That should be alone to tell enough why this keep's happening alongside some still trashing on furry stuff.
But more so feel's this site is becoming half-dead as of late due to being attacked so much.
It becomes stale and dry to keep Ddos attacking the site.
it's a shame and i will admit that, but it's how staff are handling sites as of late that no one learns from the others that poor choices can have great impacts and effects on them.
I use Tumblr/Insta/twitter more than anything than here or DA nowadays.
But i agree with you as well with the point with here and fa.
I don't mind if people want to post what they like, yes there are certain things that cross the line for me but beyond that, i do not mind.
It's just people are known to miss place things in tags and so forth.
seen too many sites suffer as of late, i am in hopes it gets better but it's looking so slim right now.
I'm just mentioning that DA is finally implementing a working blacklist filter into the site. As long as the
Eclipse is still being worked on, good chance the Blacklist will be upgraded further if enough people mention it.
it's not safe how i read that at first if that helps XD
I'll bring DA up again with at least they do not hide comments despite the site being known to be burning 24/7.
I bet there's always an identical behaviour behind each DDOS attack and a machine as fast as a quantum computer can figure that one out in realtime and counter the attack without any noticable downtime.
but with banger PCs
Not sure how much money DDOS networks earn, but I doubt it's more than major hosting companies.
And one well developed QC can outpace a super computers by a long shot, according to the latest developements, at least. And what does a supercomputer's compute power translate into a DDOS network? Like a network of several 1000 regular machines? Or several 10000 smart devices that should never have an internet connection in the first place (IoT)? Still wouldn't have a fighting chance against one quantum boi.
And by the time QCs become affordable for the broader mass, the companies are gonna have much more advanced machines. It will become a battle of the Qbits, but those with more money will always stay ahead of the race.
I mean, just look at what AMD and Intel have to offer for their server line-up. Consumer grade CPUs suddenly look like toys. ;D
Same with GPUs in that regard. Let alone the prices. Ouch.
To those people, if they are listening... go spend an afternoon in the park or something. There's a whole world out there, and you really don't need to tear at us like that to be able to enjoy it.
1. Wix already owning DA is a reason to NOT sell FA to them. A. That's monopolistic B. They're more prudish C. Their changes to DeviantArt's infrastructure have largely been downgrades - like taking away pagination. I'll take stagnation over "Wreck functionality to shove in features that our marketers are under the delusion appeal to users" D. The DA app is gimped garbage - half the stuff on the site doesn't show up properly when viewed through the app posting art and comments are the ONLY things it's good for, and it can't even do those 100% properly.
2. If you're having to use a 3P app to access your FA account on your phone, I think your phone might be the problem. I can access it just fine on my deprecated Galaxy S4 - with the native browser, no less!
FA isn't "a mess" so much as it's primitive. And I'll take primitive over "Breaking stuff people actually care about by shoving in pseudo-advanced features that are actually just obnoxious and nobody wants", thank you. I'll also take it over "Actually advanced, but allows stuff that's morally trashy even by furry porn standards and also manages to have worse security"
As for people leaving? I think the perception of migration is greater than actual migration. Especially re: people migrating to social media sites. Facebook is run by prudes and doesn't allow usernames. Neither FB nor Twitter is good for posting stories. And It's easier to search for what you want on an actual art site; social media sites are on the whole even more awkward and clunky for some of the stuff we do.
AFAICT most of the migration off FA has been either to Weasyl (largely people mad about the IMVU sale) or to InkBunny (IMO probably mainly people mad that FA started cracking down on nasty shit like cub porn).
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I may have a low opinion of the administration and tech team here, but the people whinging that the IMVU thing was "betrayal" and "selling out" have failed to make their case as far as I've seen.
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The actual resources to do it are spensive ^
My understanding is that FA does a bit of both, letting everyone in and hoping cloudflare has enough doors to cope with a minor DDOS, but switching to vetting connections when an attack is getting through in order to turn away illegitimate connections.
Aside from buying more servers to cope with the increased traffic, FA is doing pretty much all it can to mitigate these unsophisticated, yet still brutal attacks.
But, that's just my opinion, a tech-savvy guy I ain't. I work, draw, play concertina, and listen to records, that's really it.
Hire a new tech team, and dump the old and outdated security scripts and update the site's format.
Wow. This site really does harbor all levels of humanity
*Drops the mic*
LETS GET NEW EMOTES
Hypocrite how? “We gotta take this stuff down for business reasons, including mine” isn’t opposed to “I said we all gotta stop posting it here but you’re still doing it, so yer banned. Sorry, maybe”
Gold status shit post
Well, i miss that little website
And then, the owner has got some healthy problems in his family and then got some problems with payment and bills to the hospital, he were never able to reopen it again
Now. Lets all split a plate of coconut shrimp.
People: Shrug and move on
What is even the point of a DDoS attack? Nobody even cares, everything just goes right back to normal after while people shrug it off.
It's not really bothering anybody. The attacker is just wasting their time and resources xD
"Get the fuck out of my fandom."
:'D
Could have been worse I guess
Nor murder for that matter. At least not the that chlorine incident anyway.
It's just a DDoS attack. Not that deep
My point is, I really just want people to get along.
And I used to run a law department. *^^*
*coughs* Sorry *coughs coughs* :B
Y'all have definitely gotten a lot better with mitigation and damage control. Site has grown a lot since those days and you guys have been working hard to keep up. Just letting you know that I appreciate those efforts.
Thanks so much for your efforts!
EB
I'm glad you're trying so hard, I appreciate the work y'all do!
Trying to keep up with internet security is mainly a task of plugging holes. closing back doors, and replacing compromised passwords.
Sadly there is no digital duct tape that can easily solve the issue either. Trying to diagnose problems can be likened to auto repair. It's not uncommon to spend days trying to find the root cause of a problem and replace a dozen parts in the process.
Only to have another thing go out next week...
At least it seems that the issue is better understood so recovery is much quicker in the event of a failure or flaw in security.
Cheers for all your hard work in trying to keep things sane and stable. That is a trial that I certainly do not envy.
If only the people responsible for the internet BS could receive a fitting and ironic punishment. Like a persistent BSOD or the curse of Dial-Up eternal.
It will never happen, but it is a fun thought.
And they're not allowed to have a cell phone. They have to use a landline at home. So if they want the internet, they can't use the phone, and vise versa.
The thing is it has to seem like it will work, but either works so slowly there is no worth, or it breaks down before they can make any real progress with something. It's more infuriating.
Like Tantalus in Tartarus and whatnot.
And don't give a dumb speech about how "antifa" being on a site makes it okay to DDoS or some shit.
You're a dumbass. I hope you get arrested in the future, because you seem to have a corrupt idea of right and wrong.
Whether or not you're religious, the Ten Commandments makes a lot of sense, and while it does not include "Do Not DDoS Websites" the internet was well after its time.
You CANNOT say "DDoSing for fun" is morally sound without being wrong.
This box has no outside.
Please stop responding. I'd prefer not to resort to a block because I'm above that.
And that's annoying.
Best of luck resolving the situation with all of these attacks!
Any news of updating this site? Maybe have a better upload system or something?
I've pretty much become jaded and see downtime as a routine at this point. I just say "Ah shit, here we go again" and grab more coffee as I wait for the site to come back up. Not like I do anything important here anyway lol
It's always a safe bet to have a backup method of communication arranged in advance, such as email, in the event that FA is inaccessible. Kind of like an FA bug-out bag lol.
it's actually against the rules to incite any type of hacking.
which i never knew, until today.
yeah maybe
Then you can stfu moaning about who is and isn't president... The rest of the planet is sick of hearing about US politics.
If you have anger towards someone or people, take your rage to violent video gameplay.
When I get harassed at home, I play GTA 5 as Trevor in those rampage missions, it´s very satisfying.
Don´t DDOS sites, there´s no explosions, there´s no virtual people dying all it´s doing is delaying artwork.
USE MORE CREATIVITY to send your message across, DDOSing is pointless.
what a story mark
what is this, a roller coaster?
This will just be the same band-aid patch job and next week another attack and more bullshit.
Lack of a better option, though I don't post here anymore.
People have called me a white knight before because I don't talk negative about the site 24/7 and I'm not a dick to Dragoneer. FFS I just want to be able to use the site like everyone else and I wish it well. I think it's great that it's not overdeveloped like DA and it loads faster and doesn't have the "Difi" problem with notifications.
Though saying that having a brain is subjective was also pretty hilarious.
I'll also assume you did nothing in terms of reading and just jumped down to the comment box to throw out yet another hissy fit in hopes that would change anything.
In all honesty if you didn't then you would have already known there wasn't a "band-aid patch job" nor does one exist for the good ol classic DDoS.
Keep riding that admin cock bud, I'm sure they will notice you and make you a mod one day.
Are
Insufferable
Get lost, get bent, get a clue, because honest I'm sick of you.
Cellmate 2: I killed a man
Cellmate 3: I robbed a bank
Cellmate 4: I sent DDoS packets to a furry website
Cellmates 1+2+3: Bend over...
https://www.wisemantriallaw.com/blo.....ck-a-website-/
I LOVE KRISPY KREME DONUTS!!
ah hacked attacks (not nessecary directly) some computers with become zoombie's and are under full control of the hacker. Next, he uses an bot who controll's all the zoombified computers and preforms an DDoS attack, without any knowledge of the computer's owners.
So, your solution of solving it is inacceptable because: 1. it would block persones who don't have with the attack anything common (like you would be feeling if you would become banned from FA for nothing when you didn't even broken the rules? ); 2. there are too many computers would beinvolved in the attack, so it would be hard to block them all; 3. the computers could be put thru proxy, vpn, etc. or have a dynamically assigned IP address, so the blocking would be senseless
Fuck them both!
So maybe it's one of the other furry galleries doing it. This Weasly stuff, is it still around? I registered back then when an "exodus" started but honestly most of the artists I watched still posts here, so I eventually stopped checking it at all.
I love this community... LOL
I mean, I only have so much proof of them doing it. lol
https://twitter.com/Tanookicatoon/s.....20102285803521
*Munches on popcorn*
*Nom nom nom nom*
Don't be a hacker.
It's better to be yiffer like me!
The last few days I have been unable to upload any art to my gallery because I keep getting the " Error 524 Ray ID: 525804774feacaa4 • 2019-10-14 08:01:44 UTC " Message.
Anyone else know anything about this, if it's related, or how to fix this?
My file sizes are normal, as well. I'm doing everything right, it just keeps timing out. :\
Honestly the only way to prevent/solve DDOS attacks is well make it "too much work, yet so little reward" in order to stop them wanting to do it, by quite literally making it impossible to. Which is complicated, inconvenient, and Resource Consuming to implement. CloudFlare are probably going to have to strengthen Thier protection a lot, because well you ain't the only CloudFlare Hosted Site that has suffered Downtime for similar if not the same reasons as you, in recent times.
FA servers break all the fucking time anyway... So what's new?
I would never have known it was a DDOS if nobody had said.
Literally grab a bunch of USB's and put ALL of the server files on a different backup server that wasn't targeted
In any case, you can take advantage of my healing grass and plantain.
In lighter news...
HACKERS, GET OUT-
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Perhaps it could help!
https://youtu.be/3IAXQMUyJ8g
It was either Xbox or PS4 after my PC blew-up last month, and i prefer American stuff to Japanese shit.... So i got an Xbox.
Plus JRPG's are so fucking emo and boring. Forza Horizon is more fun. :D