I have started listening to Warrior Cats (currently at "Omen of the Stars" book 4) and became a big fan of it. <3
So I had to draw some Warriors fanart ;)
I first wanted to draw Sasha, but it turned out to be Leafpool and her sister SquirrelFlight, looking for a hidden place where Leafpool can have her kits.
So I had to draw some Warriors fanart ;)
I first wanted to draw Sasha, but it turned out to be Leafpool and her sister SquirrelFlight, looking for a hidden place where Leafpool can have her kits.
Category Artwork (Digital) / Fanart
Species Housecat
Gender Female
Size 1280 x 905px
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Aww! so schön ein Fanart von dir zu sehen :) Habe die zwei sofort erkannt, total schön!
Oh I started the series last year and JUST finished them all. So glad you're enjoying them! Who's your fav so far?
Super cute! I love the shadows and snow texture.
And hey, I nabbed a bunch of those books at a garage sale recently!
I read like the first chapter of the first book and it really turned me off, as someone who works for a cat rescue, seeing how harsh the book was on pet cats vs romanticizing the life of ferals. Does that continue in the rest of the series? I realllyyyy want to like it as a big cat person but it just makes me worry that if I read them with my kid, she will be upset we are doing TNR/want to set our rescues and fosters "free" and they will be hit by cars/catch FeLV/get shot at by neighbors lol. I expected the romanticization, but the kitty-pet insults and discussion of how cruddy it is to be a pet were what bothered me.
And hey, I nabbed a bunch of those books at a garage sale recently!
I read like the first chapter of the first book and it really turned me off, as someone who works for a cat rescue, seeing how harsh the book was on pet cats vs romanticizing the life of ferals. Does that continue in the rest of the series? I realllyyyy want to like it as a big cat person but it just makes me worry that if I read them with my kid, she will be upset we are doing TNR/want to set our rescues and fosters "free" and they will be hit by cars/catch FeLV/get shot at by neighbors lol. I expected the romanticization, but the kitty-pet insults and discussion of how cruddy it is to be a pet were what bothered me.
It definitely shows the harsh realities of life for feral cats; fighting, predators, starvation, etc. all make appearances in the series. But the notion of domestics being "lesser" in the eyes of the ferals remains a constant.
Ah that is so disappointing! Why they gotta go and make a dangerous statement about pets when there is plenty of material without it lol. I deal with enough hurt cats because people think they are happier outdoors than safe inside already. Thanks for the response!
Some background characters later on in the series do go on to become pets but it is sadly frowned upon in the clans. Then again this series was written when having outdoor pet cats was a common thing, especially in the UK where the series is based.
Yeah I can understand the sentiment behind it. Even 20 years ago my family had outside cats before I learned better by working rescue and witnessed too much.
Just too much for me to see responsible cat management/ownership portrayed negatively more than in passing when I spend hours educating people in my town about it and have had former fosters die within a week of being adopted because their new owner broke their contract and let them outside purposefully. Some Americans around here value ~freedom~ so much they think it is impossible for even cats which have been indoors their entire life to be happy unless they can go outside freely into places known for not being hospitable. Then they come back to try and adopt another with a shrug to the death of their last. Same people who think fixing their cat is unnatural and "hurts their personality" so if I didn't pay to fix them they would let them breed and then dump the kittens to be "free" :/
I just don't want my light reading to remind me of a peeve I already have to fight daily haha.
Just too much for me to see responsible cat management/ownership portrayed negatively more than in passing when I spend hours educating people in my town about it and have had former fosters die within a week of being adopted because their new owner broke their contract and let them outside purposefully. Some Americans around here value ~freedom~ so much they think it is impossible for even cats which have been indoors their entire life to be happy unless they can go outside freely into places known for not being hospitable. Then they come back to try and adopt another with a shrug to the death of their last. Same people who think fixing their cat is unnatural and "hurts their personality" so if I didn't pay to fix them they would let them breed and then dump the kittens to be "free" :/
I just don't want my light reading to remind me of a peeve I already have to fight daily haha.
A lot of it has to do with perspective. These are anthropomorphized cats. They're sentient with tribal societies. They have customs, rituals, beliefs, and mythologies. The best analogy I could make would be to say they're like Native Americans, and the idea of being a "kitty pet" is like being "civilized" by the white man. Having your entire society whitewashed into something acceptable. It appears to be subjugation and submission for the sake of comfort and an easy life, at least in the eyes of the wild cat societies. This is a concept that goes back to books such as "Tailchaser's Song," which may well have been the inspiration for the Erin Hunter books. Erin Hunter, btw, isn't an actual author. It's a group of authors who share the writing of books under that pen name. I think there are four.
As with most anthropomorphized stories, it's really not accurate to animal life or behavior. It takes on that guise and is interesting in that way, but it's far more a look at humanity through the lives of felines. I appreciate the rich tapestry the authors create in writing about this reality, and I prefer to read books from animal perspectives a lot of the time. So it's interesting. It's just not really realistic, of course. The issue you're taking with the books is in equating the perspectives of cats with human-level intelligence written in a fictional world with those of the felines of our world. I'd hope people could separate the two. I mean, if our cats were at the level of the ones in these books, we'd be keeping them as slaves. So you can see why they might see it in less than stellar light.
I agree with you on the issues with stray cats and keeping pet cats outdoors in our world. I'm certainly not saying you're wrong there. I really hope no one reads these books and thinks that actual cats think or live or want to live in such a way. In reality, for what intelligence they have, cats are survivors. I've known completely feral cats that eventually came to trust me, because I offered a better life than the wild life. That is in the real world human care is an improvement for them verses a detriment in a world where they're a free and sentient "people."
I hope all that makes some sense and might help alleviate some of your concerns, or at least remove some of your disappointment in the premise of the books.
As with most anthropomorphized stories, it's really not accurate to animal life or behavior. It takes on that guise and is interesting in that way, but it's far more a look at humanity through the lives of felines. I appreciate the rich tapestry the authors create in writing about this reality, and I prefer to read books from animal perspectives a lot of the time. So it's interesting. It's just not really realistic, of course. The issue you're taking with the books is in equating the perspectives of cats with human-level intelligence written in a fictional world with those of the felines of our world. I'd hope people could separate the two. I mean, if our cats were at the level of the ones in these books, we'd be keeping them as slaves. So you can see why they might see it in less than stellar light.
I agree with you on the issues with stray cats and keeping pet cats outdoors in our world. I'm certainly not saying you're wrong there. I really hope no one reads these books and thinks that actual cats think or live or want to live in such a way. In reality, for what intelligence they have, cats are survivors. I've known completely feral cats that eventually came to trust me, because I offered a better life than the wild life. That is in the real world human care is an improvement for them verses a detriment in a world where they're a free and sentient "people."
I hope all that makes some sense and might help alleviate some of your concerns, or at least remove some of your disappointment in the premise of the books.
I appreciate your discussion!! It is just a personal issue for me since I talk to people who really do believe real cats think that way haha. I have a co-worker who's ADULT HUSBAND let their pet cats go outside because it was "cruel" to keep them as pets and even my co-worker didn't understand my horror at that.
Admittedly I haven't read the books, so I can't judge much more than by saying I wish it wasn't such an issue irl that it would take away my enjoyment from the books. I do plan to read the books, though, per your recommendation. I have them anyway, may as well give them a chance :) So I'll try to keep the perspective that it is a different universe entirely and they aren't supposed to be equated to our regular pet cats.
You know, I don't think I have EVER read an anthropomorphized book before that included humans. My brain just doesn't know how to parse it other than to picture it as our universe and view the animal society as what the author imagines our animals are in secret/unbeknownst to us. I will have to work on that haha.
Thanks for Warriors book club XDD And sorry Tani for taking over your comments section!
Admittedly I haven't read the books, so I can't judge much more than by saying I wish it wasn't such an issue irl that it would take away my enjoyment from the books. I do plan to read the books, though, per your recommendation. I have them anyway, may as well give them a chance :) So I'll try to keep the perspective that it is a different universe entirely and they aren't supposed to be equated to our regular pet cats.
You know, I don't think I have EVER read an anthropomorphized book before that included humans. My brain just doesn't know how to parse it other than to picture it as our universe and view the animal society as what the author imagines our animals are in secret/unbeknownst to us. I will have to work on that haha.
Thanks for Warriors book club XDD And sorry Tani for taking over your comments section!
The warriors the whole series is amazingly put together I love hunter's other books as well (seekers, survivors)
Yasss, i love the bear story and I have the first book of the dog series!
Seekers is my second favorite warriors is first and when you read warriors you never think of your pets the same lol
Right, i keep looking at my kittypets tryin to figure out what clan they are in, lol
Ahhhhhh I love the Warriors series. Can't believe they're still going :O
I read a big chunk of those books back in high school and i love them all <3 oh and no spoilers but.....i cried my soul out while reading Bluestar's Prophecy T.T
This has to be a later series than the original. Now, I'm curious. I only read the first couple series. Oh look what you've done. I want to read more. There are so many of these books, too!
buuut...she'd just pass it off a "I've been eating a LOT of freshkill, that's why I'm plump looking" >.>
I've been reading all that I can. I think I might have finished all that I can read at the Library. I still enjoy the whole series but I think I like ThunderClan and SkyClan the most. I didn't know if I would like it at first when I started but glad I did.
If you are interested there is a giant fan base that includes stuff on youtube, discord and telegram.
If you are interested there is a giant fan base that includes stuff on youtube, discord and telegram.
Aww. It looks amazing and awesome details. I love the Erin hunter warriors books
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