FurAffinity administration against artists!
10 months ago
"Against justice in the pursuit of the eradication of AI"
This is my letter of "joy" to the FurAffinity administration, which recently removed my works, because some fools think that I generate works using artificial intelligence.
I'm beside myself with rage, there's so much injustice here. Of course, I sent all the confirmations (step by step and psd files), I opened a dispute against their accusation.
BUT it's disgusting, and I share these emotions with you.
"So. I'm very VERY angry. I believe that my work, which was painted with my sweat and blood, was undeservedly accused and removed. Moreover, you did not bother to ask me about my work BEFORE REMOVING, politely ask for evidence and sources. You didn't, YOU went into conflict! You will get conflict.
First, I do not use artificial intelligence. Photos - yes, references - yes, MY EXPERIENCE AND ABILITY TO DRAW - YES.
Why do you think that you are smarter than anyone else? Why do you see artificial intelligence everywhere? Why don't you question the complaints that will be sent to my profile without checking it? Why don't you trust an artist with 15 years of drawing experience and a master's degree in fine arts, but someone else?
It humiliates me as a user, as an artist.
Why should I make excuses? Why should I feel "guilt"? I'm not an scamer. I don't deceive people. Open up your eyes, look at my gallery. Go to my twitter, not only furry twitter, also personal twitter, with other works. I work with Disney studios, I worked in book publishing houses, I graduated with a degree in Cartoon Concept Artist. Do I need to prove my skills to you?
Should I feel inferior?
It's not my fault that artificial intelligence has appeared. Will I now be required to keep all psd files in case you delete my work? And if I deleted them, and if my laptop breaks, what then? What are you trying to say? Why do I have to think all the time that I can be caught in something, because of some stupid people who complain about my content.
I demand an apology and the return of my works to the gallery, along with the audience reach they received before the deletion."
Yes, I love the bright contrast work, yes, I love the semi-realistic rendering. And YES, this is what the AI is currently generating. And what? I now need to prove to everyone and everyone that my conscience is clear? For whom do you keep an experienced artist, we are jokes for you?
Please, if you care, give this post audience reach and comment.
Twitter post: https://twitter.com/LadyShalirin/st.....63156803584002
UPD.: Problem solved, works returned, thank you for your feedback and attention to my problem, I really hate this situation, but at the same time we all make mistakes, and I'm ready to accept it. I really want this to never happen again.
This is my letter of "joy" to the FurAffinity administration, which recently removed my works, because some fools think that I generate works using artificial intelligence.
I'm beside myself with rage, there's so much injustice here. Of course, I sent all the confirmations (step by step and psd files), I opened a dispute against their accusation.
BUT it's disgusting, and I share these emotions with you.
"So. I'm very VERY angry. I believe that my work, which was painted with my sweat and blood, was undeservedly accused and removed. Moreover, you did not bother to ask me about my work BEFORE REMOVING, politely ask for evidence and sources. You didn't, YOU went into conflict! You will get conflict.
First, I do not use artificial intelligence. Photos - yes, references - yes, MY EXPERIENCE AND ABILITY TO DRAW - YES.
Why do you think that you are smarter than anyone else? Why do you see artificial intelligence everywhere? Why don't you question the complaints that will be sent to my profile without checking it? Why don't you trust an artist with 15 years of drawing experience and a master's degree in fine arts, but someone else?
It humiliates me as a user, as an artist.
Why should I make excuses? Why should I feel "guilt"? I'm not an scamer. I don't deceive people. Open up your eyes, look at my gallery. Go to my twitter, not only furry twitter, also personal twitter, with other works. I work with Disney studios, I worked in book publishing houses, I graduated with a degree in Cartoon Concept Artist. Do I need to prove my skills to you?
Should I feel inferior?
It's not my fault that artificial intelligence has appeared. Will I now be required to keep all psd files in case you delete my work? And if I deleted them, and if my laptop breaks, what then? What are you trying to say? Why do I have to think all the time that I can be caught in something, because of some stupid people who complain about my content.
I demand an apology and the return of my works to the gallery, along with the audience reach they received before the deletion."
Yes, I love the bright contrast work, yes, I love the semi-realistic rendering. And YES, this is what the AI is currently generating. And what? I now need to prove to everyone and everyone that my conscience is clear? For whom do you keep an experienced artist, we are jokes for you?
Please, if you care, give this post audience reach and comment.
Twitter post: https://twitter.com/LadyShalirin/st.....63156803584002
UPD.: Problem solved, works returned, thank you for your feedback and attention to my problem, I really hate this situation, but at the same time we all make mistakes, and I'm ready to accept it. I really want this to never happen again.
This AI bullshit needs to stop. YOU are NOT the problem. AI, the people who created it and the assholes who use it are the problem!
I hope you don't have to deal with this often if ever again ):
Hope the staff see what's happening before they chase off more good artists
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Glad you got one of the few reasonable mods it seems!
Looks like the problem is fixed but I'm sorry for you that this even happened. It's insane anyone would try to discount your hard work as just words typed into a generator
Sorry this happened to you
Glad to hear that everything was restored, you have a lot of willpower to keep using FA after dealing with something so ridiculous. Hope this won't happen again...
I am glad it got fixed though.
This site is perhaps not run by the most competent minds of our generation.
Your artwork is awesome and I love the realism and the detailed effects that is signature to your style!
Im so sorry you've had to deal with this but very happy it's been resolved! Let's hope they learned from this mistake when they're attempting to find AI works.
Perhaps literally, even. Why would someone who hates Russians be showing up in their journals to make comments like this? Do you follow people you hate to see their art?
Also, in WHAT WAY does FA staff mistaking this artist's work for AI art have ANYTHING to do with the current war? Seriously, how are those even remotely relevant to each other? You're hurling baseless claims here.
Please leave this artist alone. Just because she's Russian, that doesn't mean you should treat her like garbage.
Have you even ASKED anyone on this who lives in Russia whether they support the war or are against it? Cause I know a few Russian users here who have been giving nothing but ridicule and scorn towards what their government has been doing lately.
And if you ACTUALLY looked into the situation instead of just constantly writing off EVERY Russian person as if they support this needless war, you'd would know not all of them support it even though MANY of the Russians that I have met on this site have OPENLY stated that they're against the war AND Putin's actions.
NOT gonna name any of them, 'cause knowing how you treat anyone who is Russian, you'll just harass them. I've seen it you and people like you doing it too. I AM WARY OF SUCH BEHAVIOR HERE.
Here's something you need to know about this. Many Russians CAN'T DO MUCH TO STOP THIS WAR OR EVEN REMOVE PUTIN AS PRESIDENT. Putin and his cronies have passed laws and regulations from the beginning of the war to present day that make it NEAR IMPOSSIBLE for anyone living in Russia to voice any sort of opposition and even protest against this war. People could face over a decade in prison just for protesting against the war.
And yet you're saying they're to blame for this simply because they paying taxes, despite the fact that if they don't, they'll go to prison for TAX EVASION so it's not really an option if they don't want to go to prison. And not everyone is going to donate to the army. The Guilt by Association tactic will not work on convincing me here.
People are also getting drafted into Russia's army. Which means that anyone in Russia that is capable of joining their army is legally forced to join. It's getting so bad that some Russian's are trying to LEAVE their homeland in other to escape Putin's regime and avoid being forced into this war. You gonna say they support this horrible war too?
And the funny thing is. The user who made this journal was simply airing out their grievances with FA staff due to the fact that they where FALSELY ACCUSED of being an AI artist. They have said NOTHING about their government NOR anything about the war here.
I literally asked you: "Also, in WHAT WAY does FA staff mistaking this artist's work for AI art have ANYTHING to do with the current war?"
YOU BLATANTLY IGNORED MY QUESTION THERE JUST TO DOUBLE DOWN ON YOUR "All Russians are evil" NONSENSE. I expected an answer, not more doubling down.
And yet despite that fact, you tried to harass this user due to being Russian. And then you tried to make this about the war when YOU DAMN WELL KNOW that this journal has nothing in it that talks about or is at all relevant to the war. And I KNOW that you and a few others have been HARASSING other Russian users on this site, regardless if they support the war or not. And you have been doing this for almost a year now. It needs to stop.
Please leave this person alone.
Pls get smarter.
Nice assumption about me./s
I'm nowhere even remotely CLOSE to being a "hippie". And actually I'm not wearing any rose-colored glasses I can see things just fine.
And you think I'M a pacifistic hippie? Please, as if. I understand that there will be times where violence can be unavoidable, and using violence to protect oneself and others is the only solution. And I DO believe Ukraine is perfectly fight back against Putin and his cronies and that Ukraine doesn't deserve any kind of oppression that Putin is causing.
Knock it off with the projection, it won't work on me.
However, what I do not think is okay is people like you who CONSTANTLY HARASS AND BELITTLE ANY RUSSIAN USER ON THIS SITE, regardless if they support the war or oppose it. 'Cause in your black-and-white view on this: "All Russians are supporting this war"
And if there's any instance of me coming across anyone on this site or elsewhere who actively supports this whether they're Russian or American or even my fellow countryfolk. The only response those kinds of people will ever get from is ridicule and scorn. I do not tolerate that.
Also, it really isn't easy to say that "It's not everyone's fault" or "It's not all that clear". It really isn't. I literally just told you WHY it's so bloody difficult for any Russian who opposes this war to speak out about the war. And you I get it, my response to your previous reply is quite long.
But it also goes into detail how any Russian even openly speaking out and protesting against this could face over 10 years in PRISON. 10 years in prison just for speaking out against their tyrant of a president who is perfecting willing to do this to HIS OWN PEOPLE. Simply because they said things about him and the war that he doesn't like. IT'S THAT BAD. Ignoring that fact is ignorant in of itself.
Me? I have been critical of this war and Putin since DAY. BLOODY. ONE. I've openly expressed complete disgust towards this war and what Putin's been doing while being openly supportive and even empathize with SEVERAL UKRAINIAN USERS HERE WHO HAVE HAD LEAVE THEIR OWN COUNTRY AND HAVE LOST LOVED ONES.
And yet YOU'RE calling me blind to this whole situation, when YOU actively HARASS and discriminate any Russian user here, even those who risked getting arrested and facing a 10-year PRISON SENTENCE by voicing their opposition to this war.
"Russians do not deserve pity or sympathy. they either do and prove that they are against their regime and against the war, or sit silently and only verbally criticize. and then in a whisper. but in this case, they should receive contempt and humiliation in exactly the same way as their "idols" in the 40s of the last century."
Cool, good to know you are STILL going to double down on your "All Russians are evil" nonsense.
And there are Russians who trying to pushback against Putin, even going as far as to start small rebellions militias in help end this madness. Still wanna keep going on about how all Russians are supporting this war and Putin? Or are you just going to conveniently ignore what I've been trying to tell you for over a DAY now?
Also things were EVEN WORSE for them in the 40's. Stalin was a complete monster who not only had people killed or sent to gulags simply on whim, but also brainwashed many people back then through many means including propaganda and manipulation. The effects of his actions are still prevalent in Russia even to this day.
"Pls get smarter."
Oh, I don't think I need to.
After all, unlike you, I'm not larping all Russians as if they support this war when it isn't the case. Nor am I harassing other users on this site simply due to the fact that they're Russia, even the ones who openly speak out against this war.
And it doesn't change the fact that you harassed this user who made this journal, simply because they're Russian, despite the fact they haven't said ANYTHING in support of what their government is doing. And then you tried to make THIS JOURNAL all about your "All Russians are evil" rhetoric when YOU DAMN WELL KNOW this journal isn't about the war at all.
It was about someone who was FALSELY ACCUSED AND TREATLY UNFAIRLY BY FA STAFF BASED ON A BASELESS ACCUSATION THAT THEY WERE AN AI ARTIST. AND YET you keep doubling down when people confront you about it.
I. AM. BOTH. WARY. AND. WEARY. OF. YOUR. NONSENSE.
No amount of insults, projecting, doubling down, and "NO U"s are going to work on me!
My overall point still stands. Knock it off with harassing Russian users who have not yet spoke out and/or oppose this war on this site and elsewhere. You ARE NOT HELPING ANYONE with your nonsense. You're contributing to the problem with what you're doing. It needs to stop. PERIOD.
No, it doesn't. It makes you look like a bloody coward. Grow up.
If so, please show me then. I'll give you a chance to prove your claim.
I'm getting real tired of people making baseless claims about others. And as of yet you have shown nothing that proves the claims you are making here.
I'm giving 'till 12:00 A.M. midnight tonight. Basically you have 6 hours to provide me proof of your claims. If you not respond before then with actual proof that this person supports what Putin is, I'm going to have an even harder time believing your claims. I will try to be amicable with you.
And if what you present to me is fake or doctored, I will find out.
You haven't blocked me like your coward of a friend. And we discuss this via Note if you'd like. So Here's your chance to prove your claims against this user to me, don't waste that please.
If so, please show me then. If not, congrats. You don't have anything to prove your case.
Time's up, lad. I gave you your chance to provide proof of anything. I wasted 6 hours of my time waiting on you to prove your case and you didn't deliver.
You had your chance, you blew it.
I'm done putting up with you now... Do not harass this person anyone.
glad you've been able to restore your works!
I'm sorry that this happened to you and I'm glad the situation was fixed.
I find it really stupid that you were accused of using AI to generate your art. You've posted your work here for years and the style of your posts over the last 2–3 years (long before high-quality AI art came onto the scene) has been quite similar with gradual and noticeable improvement in that time, as well, so someone with a brain would easily conclude that your work was done by hand. :P
Я протестировала свой рисунок и неплохую генерацию - верно определило.
Возможно, администрации стоит взять эту штуку на вооружение
Похоже, что он также принимает отзывы пользователей, поэтому, возможно, со временем люди будут давать ему неверную информацию.
К сожалению, я не думаю, что мы сможем полагаться на обнаружение ИИ. Может быть, было бы лучше, если бы сайты просили людей доказать, что они могут работать без него, только один раз, а затем оставили их в покое.
(Я использовал переводчик, так что это может показаться странным.)
Another artist friend and I were talking about how WIPs used to a thing you'd save for Patrons, but now it feels like you have to show them publicly or else you risk being accused of AI. It already takes so much struggle effort to improve at art, and it feels shameful that on top of that, now artists of your calibre have to prove they actually made their art.
There's plenty of disgusting people on this site who are using the Ukrainian conflict as a justification to spread hateful rhetoric and incite harassment towards anyone who is Russian on this site.
I'm saying this of out concern for you. You shouldn't be harassed and belittled due to the fact you're Russian nor due to the actions of that tyrant that is your president.
But I guess you never listen to anyone other than people who will share your sentiments and 100% blindly agree with you.
I GAVE you 6 HOURS last night to prove whether or not this person supported the war or Putin. You avoided doing so and provided NOTHING to prove your case.
YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE TO PROVE YOUR CASE. YOU THREW THAT AWAY. THAT'S YOUR FAULT. Your a coward just like DragonfromDarkness. Don't bother blocking me, I'm going to do it for you.
Go take your stupid "All Russians are evil" nonsense elsewhere. And anyone else you bother, I will tell them to block you too. I won't tolerate your nonsense anymore.